Chokeholds and Chill Podcast
Chokeholds & Chill is a candid, unfiltered jiu-jitsu podcast hosted by Jenn and Mallory—two women who train hard, laugh loud, and aren’t afraid to talk about everything that lives on and off the mats. From athlete interviews to deep-dive conversations about competition, community, lifestyle, recovery, mental health, and the messy reality of being a grappler, this show brings honesty and humor straight from the mats to your ears. Featuring world-class guests, difficult conversations, and plenty of behind-the-scenes chaos, Chokeholds & Chill is where real jiu-jitsu people come to actually talk.
Hosts: Mallory Ingalls @itsmaltime and Jenn Holmberg @jennholmberg
Show: @chokeholdsandchillpod
Email: chokeholdsandchillpod@gmail.com
Episodes

Dec 4, 2025
Dec 4, 2025
51 min
Bodied Jiu Jitsu Camps: Empowering Heavyweight Women with Jody Shields
In this episode, Jenn and Mal sit down with Jody Shields—better known online as @nogi_yogi—the powerhouse behind @bodiedjiujitsu, the groundbreaking camp built specifically for heavyweight women in grappling.
Jody opens up about what inspired her to create a space where bigger bodies aren’t just included—they’re centered. She breaks down the unique challenges heavyweight women face in traditional BJJ rooms, the breakthroughs she’s watched unfold at camps, and why representation in the sport matters now more than ever.
We dive into:
•The origins of Bodied Jiu Jitsu Camps and why heavyweight women needed their own training environment
•Jody’s journey through yoga, no-gi, and building confidence from the inside out
•The transformations—physical, emotional, and communal—happening at camp
•How she’s building long-term change for athletes who have felt overlooked
•What’s next for the Bodied movement
This episode is heartfelt, empowering, and a reminder that Jiu Jitsu truly is for every body.
Hosts:
@itsmaltime & @jennholmberg
Sponsor:
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Dec 1, 2025
Dec 1, 2025
1hr 28 min
In this episode, Mal and Jenn sit down with Mal’s sister, Lindsay — a special education teacher, early intervention specialist, and mom — to explore her world supporting tiny humans with big needs and being a steady force for the families who love them. She tells us all about her business, Jump the Line, and the services that she offers to support families. We talk about motherhood, marijuana as a regulation tool, and how sensory diets aren’t just for kids but a love language to yourself.
Lindsay doesn’t train jiu-jitsu herself; her sensory needs are different, and the intensity of the sport doesn’t serve her in the same way. But she’s one of Mal’s biggest supporters and has a deep understanding of how movement and regulation work — both as a mom raising 3 kids and as a professional guiding other families through early development.
For Mal and Jenn, jiu-jitsu is deeply therapeutic — a physical outlet for emotion, connection, and self-regulation. For Lindsay, therapy takes different forms. Together, they explore how different nervous systems need different forms of healing, and how the goal isn’t sameness — it’s awareness. This one is honest, grounding, and a reminder that showing up for others starts with learning how to show up for yourself.
Guest: @lindswalkkkkkkServices from Lindsay: @jumptheline2024Hosts: @jennholmberg @itsmaltime

Nov 24, 2025
Nov 24, 2025
1hr 32 min
Rob Ingram — aka McDojo Life — joins Jenn and Mal for a deeply honest conversation about what really goes on in some martial arts schools. In this episode, we talk about fraud, abuse, and the people who use “dojo” as a disguise for predatory behavior.
Rob shares how he’s uncovered fake instructors, cult-like gym cultures, predatory behavior, and financial scams. We also confront the darkest parts of this industry — sexual misconduct, child exploitation, and why so many martial arts schools operate with zero accountability.
⚠️ Trigger Warning
This episode contains discussion of sexual abuse, grooming, rape, child exploitation, physical violence, suicide (including child suicide), and predatory behavior within martial arts communities.
Listener discretion is strongly advised.
Please prioritize your mental and emotional well-being before listening.
This is more than critique — it’s a call to reform. If you believe in martial arts as a force for good, this episode will challenge you, inform you, and hopefully move you.
Follow them everywhere:
IG/TikTok/YouTube: @mcdojolife • X/Twitter: @McDojoLife
Website: www.mcdojolife.com
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Nov 17, 2025
Nov 17, 2025
1hr 47 min
In this week's episode of Chokeholds & Chill we sat down with Patrick “Durkin” Cummins for a conversation that somehow hits every chapter of his life in one go. We start off joking around (fast forward a touch if you don't like dirty jokes), but quickly dig into the real story — from walking on to wrestle at Penn State, being a member of the National team, navigating legal trouble, getting thrown straight into the UFC spotlight, and all of the highs & lows that came along with all of it.
Patrick opens up about what happens when the fighting chapter ends: exploring his creative side, figuring out who he was outside of the cage, finding purpose in coaching, and the gym he’s building now — a safe, intentional space where community really matters.
We wrap up with some fun rapid fire questions, but the whole episode is honest, grounded, funny, and full of the kind of perspective only someone who’s lived a few different lives can offer.
Tap in — this one’s got layers and a lot of laughs.
Guest: @officialdurkinTrain with Pat: @allinacademylaHosts: @jennholmberg @itsmaltime

Nov 10, 2025
Nov 10, 2025
1hr 3 min
From rolling on mismatched mats in rural Pennsylvania to training under John Danaher, Garry Tonon, and Gordon Ryan — Katie Hooven’s story is one of obsession, evolution, and community.
Jenn and Mallory sit down with Katie to talk about her journey through small-town beginnings, the legendary blue basement, moving to Puerto Rico mid-pandemic, and now helping lead the next generation at Kingsway Jiu Jitsu in Austin.
She also opens up about balancing life as a black belt, sales engineer, and co-founder of Grappling Getaways — one of the most empowering and fun women’s Jiu Jitsu camps in the world.
It’s a story of passion, perseverance, and why it’s never too late to pack your gi and chase what lights you up.
Register for Grappling Getaways at https://grapplinggetaways.com/
@grapplinggetaways
@katiehooven
@kingsway_hq

Nov 3, 2025
Nov 3, 2025
1hr 5 min
From a small farm town basement to the black belt ranks, John Kress’s Jiu Jitsu journey is anything but ordinary. Starting at 16, he trained with wrestlers, rolled on makeshift mats, and fought his way through local tournaments before earning his black belt after 16 years of dedication.
Now our newest professor at Union Jiu Jitsu, John shares his story of competition, discipline, and passion for the fundamentals. In this episode, we talk about:
• His background; from growing up in Ohio to his career in Physics to his semi-recent move to the Oregon Coast with his wife, Taylor, and their fur babies.
• How a purple belt in a basement sparked his obsession
• The grind from NAGA and Arnold Classic tournaments to black belt
• What drives his teaching style today at Union Jiu Jitsu
If you’ve ever wondered what keeps someone hooked on the mats for nearly two decades, John’s story is your answer.
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Oct 27, 2025
Oct 27, 2025
57 min
From running the world’s largest women’s Jiu Jitsu camp to coaching business owners and hosting podcasts, AJ Clingerman somehow does it all — and still finds time to roll.
Jenn and Mallory talk with AJ about how she built her Roll Models empire, the lessons she’s learned about leadership and burnout, and why creating safe spaces for women in Jiu Jitsu matters more than ever.
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Oct 20, 2025
Oct 20, 2025
24 min
From the mats to the mic, Season 3 has been a ride.
We started with BJJ Wiki, shared cycles (and laughs) with Eli Coffey, got introspective with Lex Stevenson’s hit episode on behavioral science and BJJ, and heard stories that stuck with us — from Randy Rae’s resilience to Abe and TJ of Lee’s Heart.
There was Scotty Miller, the one that got away (Vegas edition), Seph Smith and his now-infamous mustard moment, and a heartfelt re-release of Shirley’s episode that reminded us why we do this.
We wrapped it up with Becky of Mil Usos Skincare — our first official sponsor — and a little love for our favorite training partners, Zac and Victoria.
It’s been real, it’s been raw, and it’s been really freaking fun.
Catch up, laugh with us, and get ready for what’s coming next.
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Oct 13, 2025
Oct 13, 2025
58 min
From small-town roots to the mats of Kansas City, Zac Moburg’s story is one of grit, gratitude, and growth. A blue belt with a big heart (and an even bigger guard game), Zac opens up about the people and moments that shaped him — from growing up in the Midwest to learning discipline through powerlifting, caddying, and eventually Jiu-Jitsu.
Jenn and Mal sit down with Zac to talk about life lessons, family, second chances, and the gym that’s become his home away from home. Beneath the tough exterior is a guy who respects where he came from and the people who helped him get here — coaches, teammates, and the community that keeps him grounded.
This episode is about more than training — it’s about rebuilding, belonging, and the quiet strength that comes from showing up every day.
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Email us at chokeholdsandchill@gmail.com

Oct 9, 2025
Oct 9, 2025
48 min
In this episode of Chokeholds & Chill, we sit down with Becky Williams, the founder of Mil Usos Skin Care, a brand made specifically for grapplers. We dive into her journey of training, creating products to protect and heal skin on the mats, and why we’re excited to partner with her and share them with our community.
But we go way beyond skin care — we get into women’s issues in jiu-jitsu, the challenges and opportunities in a male-dominated sport, and how women navigate the tension between beauty culture and combat culture. Honest, contrarian, and empowering — this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.
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